My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

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My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby kogwar » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:08 am

https://fiveringsdb.com/decks/b60d242e- ... 6fca4/view
Stronghold:
Shiro Nishiyama

Role:
Keeper of Earth

Provinces:
Fertile Fields Air
Defend the Wall Earth
Meditations on the Tao Fire
Tears of Amaterasu Void
Rally to the Cause Water

Dynasty Deck (40)

Character (32)
3x Borderlands Defender
3x Crisis Breaker
3x Hida Guardian
2x Hida Kisada
2x Hida Tomonatsu
2x Hiruma Yōjimbō
3x Kaiu Envoy
3x Kaiu Shuichi
3x Shrewd Yasuki
3x Steadfast Witch Hunter
2x Vengeful Berserker
3x Yasuki Taka

Holding (8)
2x Funeral Pyre
3x Iron Mine
1x Karada District
1x Miwaku Kabe
1x The Imperial Palace

Conflict Deck (45)

Event (21)
2x A Fate Worse Than Death ///// /
2x Assassination
3x Backhanded Compliment ///
2x Banzai!
1x Calling in Favors //
3x Charge!
3x Court Games
2x Fair Accord
3x Way of the Crab

Attachment (16)
2x Fine Katana
3x Finger of Jade
3x Ornate Fan
2x Pit Trap
3x Reprieve
3x Seal of the Crab

Character (8)
3x Hiruma Ambusher
2x Hiruma Skirmisher
3x Stoic Gunsō

Thoughts?
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby Kaiu Genji » Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:27 pm

Have you played with this deck? I want you to note the times where you have a lack of relevant actions to play, or a lack of fate to spend. See if it becomes a trend.
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby Hida Kenshiro » Mon Jan 01, 2018 5:04 pm

kogwar wrote:Provinces:
Fertile Fields Air
Defend the Wall Earth
Meditations on the Tao Fire
Tears of Amaterasu Void
Rally to the Cause Water

i think manicured is better than fertile
I think both ancestral lands and public forum are better than defend the wall.
i think shameful display and pilgrimage are better than tears.

kogwar wrote:Dynasty Deck (40)

Character (32)
3x Borderlands Defender
3x Crisis Breaker
3x Hida Guardian
2x Hida Kisada
2x Hida Tomonatsu
2x Hiruma Yōjimbō
3x Kaiu Envoy
3x Kaiu Shuichi
3x Shrewd Yasuki
3x Steadfast Witch Hunter
2x Vengeful Berserker
3x Yasuki Taka

im not a fan of vengeful berserker or taka or tomonatsu you need three kisadas 3 vanguards warriors
kogwar wrote: Holding (8)
2x Funeral Pyre
3x Iron Mine
1x Karada District
1x Miwaku Kabe
1x The Imperial Palace

drop the funeral pyres and pick up imperial storehouses
drop miwaku kabe and the imperial palace. pick up two favorable ground
kogwar wrote:Conflict Deck (45)
too many cut to forty then come back
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby kogwar » Mon Jan 01, 2018 9:39 pm

Made the suggested changes to the dynasty (Thank you Hida Kenshiro) after suggestings and learning abit more about the meta. Still trying to figure out what conflict to cut.
https://fiveringsdb.com/strains/f83bfcd ... 6fca4/view

Shiro Nishiyama

Keeper of Earth

Manicured Garden Air
Ancestral Lands Earth
Meditations on the Tao Fire
Shameful Display Void
Rally to the Cause Water

Influence: 11/13, 2 remaining

Dynasty Deck (40)
Character (32)
3x Borderlands Defender
3x Crisis Breaker
3x Hida Guardian
3x Hida Kisada
2x Hiruma Yōjimbō
3x Kaiu Envoy
3x Kaiu Shuichi
3x Shrewd Yasuki
3x Steadfast Witch Hunter
3x Stoic Magistrate
3x Vanguard Warrior
Holding (8)
2x Favorable Ground
2x Imperial Storehouse
3x Iron Mine
1x Karada District

Conflict Deck (45)
Event (21)
2x A Fate Worse Than Death ///// /
2x Assassination
3x Backhanded Compliment ///
2x Banzai!
1x Calling in Favors //
3x Charge!
3x Court Games
2x Fair Accord
3x Way of the Crab
Attachment (16)
2x Fine Katana
3x Finger of Jade
3x Ornate Fan
2x Pit Trap
3x Reprieve
3x Seal of the Crab
Character (8)
3x Hiruma Ambusher
2x Hiruma Skirmisher
3x Stoic Gunsō
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby Hida Ook » Tue Jan 02, 2018 1:14 pm

Why Imperial Storehouse over Funeral Pyre?

It seems to me that the Pyres would be better. Sure they clogged the deck a little but you can draw many cards with it while Storehouse only gets you one card. I'm not saying Storehouse is bad, just that it seems to me that Pyre is better.
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby Hida Kenshiro » Tue Jan 02, 2018 2:58 pm

Hida Ook wrote:Why Imperial Storehouse over Funeral Pyre?

It seems to me that the Pyres would be better. Sure they clogged the deck a little but you can draw many cards with it while Storehouse only gets you one card. I'm not saying Storehouse is bad, just that it seems to me that Pyre is better.
you aren't gonna have the fodder for multiple turns worth of sacrificing so imperial is better because of that and because of the +1 ps
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby kogwar » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:31 am

Shiro Nishiyama
Keeper of Earth
Manicured Garden Air
Ancestral Lands Earth
Meditations on the Tao Fire
Shameful Display Void
Rally to the Cause Water
Influence: 11/13, 2 remaining
Dynasty Deck (40)
Character (32)
3x Borderlands Defender
3x Crisis Breaker
3x Hida Guardian
3x Hida Kisada
2x Hiruma Yōjimbō
3x Kaiu Envoy
3x Kaiu Shuichi
3x Shrewd Yasuki
3x Steadfast Witch Hunter
3x Stoic Magistrate
3x Vanguard Warrior
Holding (8)
2x Favorable Ground
2x Imperial Storehouse
3x Iron Mine
1x Karada District
Conflict Deck (45)
Event (22)
2x A Fate Worse Than Death ///// /
2x Assassination
3x Backhanded Compliment ///
2x Banzai!
1x Calling in Favors //
3x Charge!
3x Court Games
3x Rebuild
3x Way of the Crab
Attachment (15)
2x Fine Katana
3x Finger of Jade
1x Jade Tetsubō
3x Ornate Fan
3x Reprieve
3x Seal of the Crab
Character (8)
3x Hiruma Ambusher
2x Hiruma Skirmisher
3x Stoic Gunsō

So made some changes after some testing and catching up on some of the meta (Thank you imperial advisor). Dropped pit trap and accord. Never really seemed to get accord out as much and often liked to get first pass so having an extra action there would be counter intuitive. Dropped pit trap cause with already having other things for my fate I found that it wasn't worth it and it was alot to set aside for something that would either do very little or get removed. So with the 4 slots I threw in a play set of rebuilds and a tetsubo just to give it a try. Though I did not end up going to the table with it I did take a serious look at Levi to fill accords slot.
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby Kaiu Genji » Sun Jan 07, 2018 12:55 pm

I would remove the fingers of jade, unless you are in a scorpion-heavy environment.

Removing a Stoic Gunso and a Hiruma Ambusher would get you down to 40 cards.
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby HidaHayabusa » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:43 am

If you are running the dishonor package, why wouldn't you run Watch Commander?

Also if you are planning on being remotely successful on playing a 4 cost event, you'd better work on some knowledge around the opponent's hand. You'll need either Meek Informant (checking for Forged Edict, Voice of Honor or Censuer), or even better, Policy Debate.
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Re: My first crack at pincer alliance military in new5r

Postby kogwar » Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:16 am

Changed the list abit. Still working on cutting the conflict deck.
Shiro Nishiyama
Keeper of Earth
Manicured Garden Air
Ancestral Lands Earth
Meditations on the Tao Fire
Shameful Display Void
Rally to the Cause Water
Influence: 11/13, 2 remaining
Dynasty Deck (40)
Character (32)

3x Borderlands Defender
3x Crisis Breaker
3x Hida Guardian
3x Hida Kisada
2x Hiruma Yōjimbō
3x Kaiu Envoy
3x Kaiu Shuichi
3x Shrewd Yasuki
3x Steadfast Witch Hunter
3x Stoic Magistrate
3x Vanguard Warrior
Holding (8)

2x Favorable Ground
2x Imperial Storehouse
3x Iron Mine
1x Karada District
Conflict Deck (44)
Event (22)

2x A Fate Worse Than Death ///// /
2x Assassination
3x Backhanded Compliment ///
2x Banzai!
1x Calling in Favors //
3x Charge!
3x Court Games
3x Rebuild
3x Way of the Crab
Attachment (14)

2x Fine Katana
1x Jade Tetsubō
2x Ornate Fan
3x Reprieve
3x Seal of the Crab
3x Watch Commander
Character (8)

3x Hiruma Ambusher
2x Hiruma Skirmisher
3x Stoic Gunsō
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