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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Julius Redwings » Tue May 15, 2012 7:52 am

Hida Okami wrote:4th Edition was a while ago - currently it is on 5th (6th is due out this summer). Not sure about Blood Angels as I am a lifelong Space Wolf.
But I will say this - if they make my army obsolete again, I'm done with 40K. I'm so sick of having to get rid of perfectly good miniatures just because they changed the codex yet again.
And the changes aren't even for balance purposes - they're clearly made with the intent of selling more models. I've spent a lot of time lately painting up my army and I'll be damned if that effort has been in vain.


Can I have your stuff? :rofl:

I've been playing since 4th came out. You just take it with a grain of salt and play on. I enjoy low key games, I've stopped going to tournaments since the local area has a bunch of a$$hats.
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby kaymar » Tue May 15, 2012 9:34 am

I first played in the days of Rogue Trader (ok, not a lot, really kicked in in 2nd ed) and I had a Squat army, so I snort when people complain about 1 or 2 squads going out of circulation :D Dropped out for 7 years or so when kid was first born, and now he is 9 I'm starting to introduce him to GW stuff - if only because I'd rather he did that when he gets a bit older than some other stuff (tm) that could happen.

GW hasn't felt 'for and of the people' since it dropped non GW stuff (back when it was a gaming and roleplaying shop in essence), but they are a hugely sucessful gaming company from outwith the US, which in my mind is impressive in its own way.
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Yasuki Binbo » Tue May 15, 2012 10:00 am

It's how they treat the brick and mortars that pisses me off the most. "Have some guys who want 40k well we need 25% of your store space allocated to GW." I miss the squats.
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Hida Okami » Tue May 15, 2012 11:26 am

Yasuki Yamakori wrote:Then you'll be happy to know that Privateer Press has never made a model unplayable.


Indeed - I have noticed that and it was a pleasant change.
It's not so much that GW has ever made an individual model unplayable (at least, not for me), more to the point they reorganize the army lists so that the army I have is no longer playable. Units need to be overhauled with new models, and the only hope for the obsolete is to take up a position in a newly-purchased unit.

This is probably how I wound up with over 4500 points of Space Wolves over the years - yet I'm still painting up an army that I can currently use on the table.

Also, I'm seeing how I'll be able to play a normal game of Warmachine with as few as three models, usually less than 10, and seldom more than 20. That's about 20-25% of the size of my Space Wolves army. That means I can have a complete force painted up in a couple weeks, instead of several months. And the price is comparable on a per-model basis (actually a little less), which means I can build a WMH army for a lot less than a 40K one.

I'll still play 40K, and probably even expand my army... but I'm through with chasing after it, if you know what I mean.

Julius Redwings wrote:I've been playing since 4th came out. You just take it with a grain of salt and play on. I enjoy low key games.

I wouldn't mind if I only had to overhaul my army once... but I've been playing since Rogue Trader, 25 years ago. So that's been 4 times that I've needed to redo the army - I don't dare to think how many thousands of dollars went into it. I have sold, given away, and occasionally even thrown out what I can't use - and I've still got some stuff I'm going to take to the local game store today and see if I can trade for credit.

kaymar wrote:I had a Squat army, so I snort when people complain about 1 or 2 squads going out of circulation :D

I feel your pain - I had a Squat force as well... pity that they annihilated that race from the game. It's one of the reasons a Rhulic force in WMH is appealing to me. I tend to gravitate towards Dwarves in most fantasy games and MMOs, it seems.

I'm starting to introduce him to GW stuff - if only because I'd rather he did that when he gets a bit older than some other stuff (tm) that could happen.

Funny, that's the same reason why my wife indulges my hobby. :)
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Hida Okami » Tue May 15, 2012 3:02 pm

Picked up my first Warmachine models today - brought in all my surplus 40k stuff and a few other bits, got enough for the Prime Mk II rules, the Khador book and Battlebox.
Looks nice, but I do have some minor issues with the plastic kits. First of all, whomever they hire to clip the models from the sprue should be more careful - it's a pain in the ass to clean up the "bite marks" where the gates were. Also, this plastic is like nothing I've used before - it's more like resin, and standard model cement won't work. If I could find a superglue with a needle-like applicator (like my Model Master that didn't clog, I'd be happy.

Aside from that, I'm having fun - and I have you guys to thank for getting me into this. :ugeek:
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Yasuki Binbo » Tue May 15, 2012 3:04 pm

Just remember one thing play like you have a pair.
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Hida Okami » Tue May 15, 2012 7:36 pm

Oh yeah, I love that slogan! Actually, all of Page 5 is cool.
Playing like I've got a pair comes naturally to me, being Crab and all. :)

I went to a local hobby store this morning (Actually in the next town), they have a pretty big selection of WMH stuff (more than my "home" store in fact), but some of it is very old (like 1st edition rules). Good news is, I found a Gorton Grundback battlegroup, still priced at $40 and long out of production. Saves about $30-40 over buying the models separately. Didn't have the cash for it, but I explained to my wife why it was a good idea not to let it get away, and she went back with me after she got out of work and bought it. She treats me so well. :)
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Yasuki Yamakori » Tue May 15, 2012 8:59 pm

Also, this plastic is like nothing I've used before - it's more like resin, and standard model cement won't work. If I could find a superglue with a needle-like applicator (like my Model Master that didn't clog, I'd be happy.


Standard every day superglue is all you need for PP plastics once they're cleaned up. Any hardware or department store will have it. And some bargain stores and supermarkets.

It's just like PP to use a plastic that's made to be held together by a glue that anyone can get their hands on. :thumbup:
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Re: L5R 40k

Postby Hida Okami » Wed May 16, 2012 11:48 am

That's not the issue - of course, I use superglue on my metal models already. But these plastics are basically just like metal models when it comes to cleanup and assembly. They seem to have none of the advantages of a plastic model in terms of ease of work - and they lack the weight a metal model would have (except for the 'jacks, which feel solid enough).

I like the things I can do with styrene, as far as cleanup and customization, and I like how plastic cement melts the parts together for a good bond. Not a deal-breaker, just a total deviation from any other plastic minis I've ever worked with. The upside is that they appear to be very resistant to breakage - which is good with the delicate parts on some 'casters.
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