HidaHayabusa wrote:How is this even similar to Astonishing accusation?
the penalty is related to base PH.
I like grief more than I do astonishing for dishonor. Dishonor doesnt need help beating high honor clans, we need help beating low honor military and berserkers especially. Funny enough Astonishing is better in honor/military (in my eyes) than it is Dishonor.